This is a very crazy story. Majoritiy of events take place in a short space of time. It happened a couple of days ago. Well, just read it.
Start of Story.
I met BlueEyes (her pseudonym for anonimity) at a local trendy clothing store in my area. She had a real bad-girl trapped in a sweet girls body look and was easily a 9 in looks. I noticed she was looking at guys clothes, so I pretended to browse near her, and opened with “You know, I hate how all guy clothes these days seems to be well, girly”. She looked at me innocently and replied in a very sexy voice, “yea well, it suits most guys” and eyed me up and down. Did she just neg me? A bit taken away, I smiled and left. I was too shocked.
I walked across the room to the shoe area, and started browsing, trying to forget what happened. I found a pair of shoes I liked and looked around for an shop-assistant to help me, I immediately set my eyes on a cute little brunette folding some clothes behind me, I walked up to her and asked if she could assist me in some difficult decisions.
Note: Girls love giving advice, so if you see a hot service-assistant at a store, and even though you know what you want, always ask for her opinion.
She followed me, and we got into a conversation about the shoes. I playfully negged her with, “Wow your so bossy, how do your friends put up with you” and she playfully slapped my arm. IOI.
After talking about shoes, I decided to try stack another opener on her, this time the “Flossing or brushing serious question”. She laughed and giggled and everything was going fine… and then she arrived.
BlueEyes must have got pissed at waiting to be served while I was flirting with the counter chick. She came in all smiles. She opened with “Hi sorry, can I just but in and ask where you got your hair done, its amazing”. I was cut out. Immediately I started feeling awkward, I was standing around like an idiot while they talked about their hair. Feeling defeated, I started to look around seeing how I could get out of there. BlueEyes saw this.
As if to rub the salt in, she looked at the pair of shoes I was holding and still whilst smiling or breaking a sweat says “Wow those shoes are hot, and by the looks of it, you really need new ones, I bet Jess here picked them out for ya”. She negged me. Lowered my value. And complimented the service assistant, whose name she already had by now all in one go.
However she pulled it off so well, I wasn’t sure if she meant to say it like that, or she was actually ‘attacking’ me. Not wanting to back down, I immediately replied with a line I’ve been using for a while,
I laughed, quite convincingly and half laughing, half speaking replied “wow haha out of everyone here, I don’t expect you to give advice on style” I beamed a smile straight after.
As I delivered it, I realized it was a bit rough, but I hated this girl. She was actually trying to out game me. Feeling I had won even before I finished, I was in no way prepared to what she replied with, almost mechanically, as if she knew what I was going to say. “Well I guess it depends on your definition of style”. Smile. I had lost, I was speechless. I’ve only been playing the game for a few months, she obviously was much more advance.
However I still wasn’t sure if she was playing the game, or she was just naturally like that. There was an awkward pause after she said that, my mind was screaming, ABORT! ABORT! Then, I guess sensing her win, she saved me with “Well anyway, Jess can I buy these, I got to get out of here”, Jess looked at me and said “Hope I helped with the shoes” and they walked off together. Game. Set. Match.
I watched as they left, still wondering what happened, feeling defeated, and confused. Then the denial came, as I watched her walk away with my target my mind started going wild with rage, I hated BlueEyes, she inadvertently ruined my game, being the smart-ass little bitch she messed me up, no way she was that good, she was lucky. Then something happened that made my mind do a complete 180. As they walked away, BlueEyes lifted her hand to flick her hair out behind her ears, it was unmistakable, a true attack, she was playing, she was good, mid flick, her hand turned into the international symbol of Fuck You, she gave me the finger.
I had to get out of there, I couldn’t handle it. I walked out the store and onto the bench and just sat there. I stared at the ground, trying to work out what happened. Then I saw them, the strappy sandals, and the pink toenail makeup.
BlueEyes: “Mind if I sit down?”
Me: “uhh sure”
BlueEyes: “That was fun?”
Me: “what?”
BlueEyes: “haha so cute” *ruffle my hair*
Me: “hands of the merchandise” (vain attempt to bring back myself back)
BlueEyes: “haha here is my number, call me this weekend if you want to come see me”
Me: *shocked*
BlueEyes: ” ciao ciao” (school girl smile)
End of Story
It’s been 2 days, and I’ve been staring at the number wondering what to do. If anyone has had experience with this, please reply in the comments.
14 July, 2006 at 7:06 pm |
Wow man, just wow. I guess there is no better pick up artist than a hot girl eh? While Ive never had anything like this happen to me I think you have to call her up. I mean, if nothing more imagine the wealth of information you can get from her! You can sharpen your skills against the harshest of enemies, a fellow PUA. She seems more expirienced so I would prepare for a pretty heated battle. But, in the end she doesnt seem to bad. I mean she could have easily twisted the knife and left you standing there like a punk. Maybe she interrupted your pick up on the brunette because she wanted you for herself. Either way, your ahead. Shes shown you two IOI’s and youve shown her none. Keep up the negging and dont let anything she says ruffle you or throw you off your game. Remember, shes a fellow PUA and dont underestimate her. Other than that I think you can learn alot from associating with her. I mean . . . if you two teamed up and winged each other you could easily do some major damage.
15 July, 2006 at 12:20 pm |
Dude….this girls has pivot written all over her.Do you have any idea how easy it will be to open sets with her on your side.Just be ready to deal with her AMOG ways and your set.
15 July, 2006 at 1:25 pm |
Update!-15/7/06
I finally mustered up the courage and gave BlueEyes a call this morning. This girl is great at fluff talk, we shot the shit for a few minutes, until out of nowhere she changed her tone to a more ’serious’ nature and said
“Listen, I’m getting my nails done in an hour, after that im free. How about we meet up, and talk for real”
Now what talking for real means I dont know. But I told her that I’m got erins to run for the next few hours (I really dont) but I should be able to make it in a couple of hours. To which she repiled, “thats fine, but its just cutting down how long we have to chat”. Good Reply.
So anyway now there is 20mins until I told her to meet me at this coffee shop down the road from my place. Its my familular territory and I know the waiters, they often help me DHV as they often give me “free drinks”(which i secretly pay for after). So I will tell you how it all goes.
I do realise how incredibly useful this girl could be. As a pivot, and a great insight into the girls psyche. But yea. Lets hope I dont fuck it up.
18 July, 2006 at 8:44 am |
How’d it go?
18 July, 2006 at 12:14 pm |
Update! – 18/7/06
Start of Story
Ok so we went for coffee. She looked amazing, yet not overdressed. She has great personal style. What happened for the next couple hours was absolutely mind-blowing. She flirted and messed around with everyone around us. She flirted with the waitress, because she decided she didn’t want a coffee but rather a tea, the waitress was more than happy to take it away and swap it, even though she had drunk 1/4 of it. These ladies who were looking for seats, apparently one of them had some shoes she was looking for. So she chat them up, and got the info.
Now watching her I realized she uses her game only when she needs something from someone. She switches it on, and within seconds she starts. I’ve noticed she mostly plays herself to be a sweet innocent girl in awe of her target whilst opening, but then slowly DHV’s and by the end she is the queen bee, and any request is hers.
Now you might be thinking, well she is a girl, all she has to do is show some skin, and bam she’s in. That maybe true for the guys, but this girl is very good a ‘flirting’ with females as well. What scares me most however is the coldness in her approach. When she saw the girl with the shoes she wanted she said to me “That fucking bitch has the shoes I want”, and then switch, she’s miss innocent again.
Well enough about her, more about how we got along. I think we hit it off really well, but then again with her I’m not sure what’s real. She is an incredible actress, and it’s hard to work out what is sincere and what’s not. Midway through the conversation however, she changed. She went form innocent, talking about her family etc, to PUA. There was an awkward silence for a second, until she blurted out, “So do you sleep around a lot?”, shit test? I was too shocked only thing I could muster out was “haha, depends on what you mean by that”, I had know idea what I meant by that. She smiled and replied “I don’t care, it wont change my impression of you”, I told her “I did alright for myself”, and immediately then asked her “How about you?”. I thought that was too far, too personal, but she answered it briskly with, “I don’t really fuck often, I do enjoy teasing people and making them chase me to the point when we are about to. That’s why I asked to meet you, at the shops you were rude to me, and you didn’t just laugh it off”. Thank you Mystery and your Method. I was enjoying talking about the subject, but then it clicked to me, this is a routine she is using on me. She is building massive sexual tension, and making me correlate her with sex, as she talked I could see she took slow deliberate sips of tea, she crossed and uncrossed her legs a couple times. I had to get out of it, to show her that I’m not some guy she can mess with, and also because I was starting to get turned on. I couldn’t change the subject, as it would have shown my discomfort, and she would of one. So I just looked her in the eyes, smiled, paused for effect, she grinned, and I said calmly, I think we end it there, I have erins to run before tonight. She kept her gaze, and then smiled, “Ok”.
I went to pay for the drinks, and walked her to her car. On the way though, my mind went haywire. What should I do, should I kiss her cheek goodbye, should I ask her when are we going to meet again, should I just say nothing and wait or hope for her to call me? But then she said something they put me in complete calm, “You know, I actually enjoyed that”, we stopped at her car she lent back on it, we where inches apart, the tension, it was back, “Next week my friend is having a housewarming, It is going to be incredibly boring”… leaned forward, should I lean closer to kiss, no, fuck her I can control myself… “bunch of my work friends, drinking and messing around”… she opens the door behind her, grins and gets in, she wind’s down the window “if you want, you can come”. I smiled, paused for effect, and said “I’ll see what I can do”, she giggled and said “yea right, I shouldn’t hold my breath… goodnight sleek”, goodbye blueeyes.
End of Story
Should I go to the party guys? Any hints? Please this girl is messing with me. Leave comments!
18 July, 2006 at 3:02 pm |
Holy shit. That is incredible. Fuck blueeyes, that’s ms. manipulation right there. Keeper!
18 July, 2006 at 5:18 pm |
Wow. Just wow. This girl amazes me more and more. I would KILL to be flirting with a girl like this, a girl that would take me to my highest plateu of game and skill. But it seems like shes getting to you more and more. She has you losing your cool, has you getting hot under the collar. Shes gaming you man, she may even be a member of the community. Shes push pulling you man.
“I don’t really fuck often, I do enjoy teasing people and making them chase me to the point when we are about to. That’s why I asked to meet you, at the shops you were rude to me, and you didn’t just laugh it off”.
Shes saying shes not easy and that she likes teasing people until you think youre about to have sex, could be a possible neg like thats what shes doing to you and than she mentions why shes with you. Sounds alot like push pull.
I say you definately have to go to the party. Go, but with a date. She probabally wont be expecting that. Show her that you have other girls, that youre not going to pander to her. Of course if you dont have a date than go anyway, but ignore her. Those who are good at malipulation and acting usually have the same flaw: They think their always on top and thrive on attention. Show her shes not on top, that you DGAF (dont give a fuck) about her. A date would be the perfect way, if no date than game her work friends. She will step in to stop you. After that tell her “Look I know you want me so bad that seeing me with another girl would drive you totally insane but please, try to control yourself.
23 July, 2006 at 10:47 pm |
Update 23/07/06
Start of Story
So I went to the housewarming. I used Streetwise Keen’s advice, I didn’t bring a date, however and ignored her, while I befriended her friends. All of which are what I like to call “pretty people”, rich boys and girls who think they are better than general society but are really just jokes. It was the most psychologically manipulative night I have ever had, read on to find out why.
For an hour I resisted the urge to uppercut this turtleneck called Chip (give me whatever drugs his parents where on when they named him), it was his housewarming. I smiled, befriended him and the other turtlenecks, and quickly became the center attention of the party. The females came flocking, and I thought I was impressing Blueeyes. After a few seconds I could tell, this gorgeous curly haired brunette liked me. She moved around the group to stand next to me, played with her hair, constantly tried for me to grab her attention etc. I kept ignoring her, only making slight hidden gestures of attraction that only she could see(I’m writing a post on this technique I worked out soon), everything was going great, when midway through my sentence, Blueeyes busted into the group and dissected me and the brunette. She grabbed my hand in hers…
Blueeyes: Honey, can you get me a drink?
Can you believe that? This girl was beyond good, she was fucken great. Not only did she just cancel all the validating to the women, by clearly making it out that we are together, but she was also gonna drop my value with the guys, if I bowed down and got her a drink.
I turned to her, and she looked at me smiling, innocently, while she squeezed my hand. She way enjoying this. My mind raced, but I kept my cool, then I did the most daring thing I had ever done in my life, I was so scared, that I looked down at my drink, and took the rest of it in one big skull (it was 3/4’s full jacks and coke), and said “No worries babe”, and leaned in for a kiss. I knew in my head, that there was a chance she would pull away, but then people would wonder about all the affection she was apparently showing me, she leaned forward and we pecked, she squeezed her nails into my hand whilst I did it.
I walked off head up high, sure it may have ruined my chanced with the other women in the room, and the guys might think I’m some lacky, but I felt great. I had won. Or had I? I walked back into the set drinks at hand, but I immediately felt something was wrong. Had she said something? Dammit I shouldn’t have left her alone. The set that grew to nearly 8 people in size began shrinking, eventually I faked a phone call on my cell, and bailed it. As I sat there talking to my voicemail machine pretending I am on some important call, I saw Blueeyes come walking up to me. I could have strangled her, she must have really been heated when I kissed her, and told the group something awful.
She came up to me, and I told my voicemail I had to go.
Blueeyes: “Having fun.”
Sleek: “You bet” *Grin* (Keeping my cool)
Blueeyes: “Pretty sneaky there sleek, this party is getting stale, lets bail it, I am gonna say bye to everyone”
Sleek: “Ok… wait, what did you say to them when I was away getting you a drink”.
Blueeyes: “Me? I didn’t say anything…”
Blueeyes: “Only I don’t think Chip was too happy with the kiss, I mean he is my ex-bf”
She walked away. It all made sense now. I didn’t even say goodbye to anyone, I walked out front, and walked around pondering. I walked to the car, Blueeyes came out the house, Chip following her to the door, he glared at the direction of the car, she got up on 1 her toes and kissed his cheek. She got in the car, and we drove off.
Blueeyes: “So where now?”
Sleek: “How the hell could you go out with Chip?”
It was eating me inside, It was AFC but I had to know. This guy had all of 2 braincells at birth. Sure he was good looking, but dam.
Blueeyes: “He bought me nice things”
Blueeyes: “don’t be angry just because I stopped you from getting Brunette, mind you, you would have had a very good night if you did, she really likes giving it up”
Blueeyes: “anyway, its still early, lets go back to mine”
Sleek: “Sure”
I know it was pre-emptive, but I got a hard-on right there. I was angry at first, she did mess it up with me and Brunette. But she asked me to her place, did my ignoring and getting her jealous thing work? did she wanna go her place to fool around?
We got to the front of her place and walked in. I immediately started thinking of routines, but my mind was drawing blanks She made me and herself a drink and we sat on her couch, put on the tv, and talked crap for a few hours. And that’s it. I completely forgot the game. We just had a great conversation. I learnt a lot about her, her family. It really was great. A few hours passed, and I said I better leave, she looked at me and said, “if you must”. I walked to the door, she followed, I walked out, and turned around,
“goodnight Blueeyes”
“goodnight Sleek”
*awkward pause*
“you got one kiss tonight honey, that’s enough”
and she closed the door. I laughed a little walked to my car and went home.
End of Story
Ok. Give it to me, did I mess up not gaming her at her place? Did I fuck up at the party, constructive criticism please.
27 July, 2006 at 6:47 pm |
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28 July, 2006 at 10:23 am |
Wow. Thats all I can say. Wow.
This girl is just something else. When she called you honey it just invalidated you with the girls and as you said DLV’d the guys. If you had been outward hitting on them you probabally would have been shut out for the party for beign a player. You couldnt even use the dont inttreupt pattern, it would have made you look like a punk.
Here what Im seeing: THis girls getting you good. By her actions and words shes throwing you off your game. You have missed out on some prime opportunities to tease and neg and DHV. Besides, shes controlling this relationship right now. Lets look at the progression: She finds you after the incident in the store, she gives you her number, tells you when shes available to meet, invites you to a party and than says when you two will leave. Its genious how shes doing it but shes making you the submiussive one without you even knowing it.
As for not gaming her at her place it might be mixed. Remember she says she likes getting guys hopes up until they think they will sleep with her and than she turns them down so be on her toes. But its good you fluffed and made an emotional connection. Youve got comfort levels down, whats nextis S1, S2, S3 seduction time.
BTW: You doing the style life challenge? I think the guys there would get a kick out of this and ytou could get alot more feedback from just one person.
28 July, 2006 at 1:23 pm |
Hey thanks for the advice Streetwise Keen, I was considering doing the stylelife challenge, but I didnt want to impose on the true AFC’s… not saying I’m not an AFC, it’s just that I have progressed a bit further than most people doing the challenge.
In regards to ol Blueeyes, we have only spoken briefly through SMS the past few days, which she initiated both times. I am not sure if I should call her first this weekend, as it may seem to clingy. I mean ive seen her every weekend for the past few weeks. However like you said Keen, she is controlling the relationship and maybe I should take a stand. Its friday today, so I was thinking I might call her late in the afternoon, and be spontaneous and ask her out. Somewhere non-sexual and maybe I’ll bring a few friends along (male and female) and if she declines, act not phased by it. Ill see how I go.
Im getting major feedback with my little issue here, and I love it, I am thinking of dedicating it to a page on its own (including peoples comments) so if those who wrote in with feedback dont mind, Ill make its on page on the blog, so people can check it out easier.
-Sleek
30 July, 2006 at 4:13 am |
Its cool, I got the challenge and most of the stuff saved so if you ever want to do it by yourself just to cement the basics I could always send you the stuff.
Well its good she initiated. Were they spaced out or all at once? If they were spaced out it means youre really getting into her mind instead of her sending like two in two days in which case it could be some carry over thoughts from the day before.
I was actually going to suggest you call her up and ask her out. Of course, keep the frame that “you wanna hang out? Im bored here because all my friends seem partied out and want to sleep off yesterdays hangovers.” This is social proof, it shows you arent intrested and you just want to hang out for your amusement so it makes the frame she needs to entertain you. Course, this girl is good so Im not sure how she would react but if you think it is good use it. Be sure to tell her to “wear something casual” as Style says. Take her to your turf, a place you visit alot and DHV like crazy. She might still be under the impression that she is at a higher value than her and you need to show her its not true.
30 July, 2006 at 4:14 am |
Oh and I have no problem with the its own page thing, I think its a great idea.
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This is great. I have a girlfriend now that is just like this. She is cocky and funny and it is awesome to have a girl like that teasing everyone.
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But honestly, she sounds like nothing but trouble. High maintenance trouble.
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Quick-connect coupler for remote manipulation
United States Patent H000804
The embodiments of this invention in which an exclusive property or privilege is claimed are defined as follows:
1. A quick-connect fluid coupler comprised of a removable coupler body with interlocking means with a push-to-connect/pull-to-disconnect release mechanism, and a stationary coupler body with complementary interlocking means without a release mechanism, adapted to permit connection and disconnection by remote manipulation, comprising: a housing surrounding said removable coupler body, abutment means engaging portions of said removable coupler body, transferring the motion of said housing to said removable coupler body, comprising two or more detachable rings encircling said removable coupler body, and remote manipulator interfaces projecting from the exterior surfaces of said housing.
2. The quick-connect fluid coupler of claim 1, wherein said housing includes guide means to assist in mating said removable coupler body with said stationary coupler body.
3. The quick-connect fluid coupler of claim 1, comprising as well, a guide encircling the stationary coupler body of said quick-connect hose coupler, providing a receptacle into which said housing and said removable coupler body arc pushed during connection.